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The coming knock-on effect from the current US scene

 
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: The coming knock-on effect from the current US scene Reply with quote

So how do you guys see the UK market in say 12 months time when we start to see the knock on effect of the downturn the US appears to be going through.

The big example being that US distributors are beginning to choose to release shows without dubs, Media Blasters being the main one, though Geneon appear to be looking into it if the rumoured licenses of Maria-Sama Ga Miteru is anything to go by.

Or say the larger involvment of companies like Kadokawa, will we ever see FMP:TSR or Haruhi over here.

Or even what shows we might see to keep the momentum here in the UK that just might not work, as contrary to what appears to be popular belief out there, we are not the same as the US market.

Can anybody see Kodocha selling espetially given that Funi have apperently dropped the series after ep52.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh i think we'll see Kadokawa USA shows by the end of the year.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: The coming knock-on effect from the current US scene Reply with quote

You make a lot of points! Shocked *braces self for mega-post*

I think the frequency of releases may speed up a little which has been prompted by Revelation's arrival. ADV have recently changed their monthly approach and now release titles fortnightly. This allows greater flexibility and opens up the possibility of a volume every 6 weeks instead of bi-monthly.

With the titles you mention I reckon FMP:TSR will definitely come , though whether it'll be ADV, MVM or Revelation I've no idea! Haruhi will probably make it over here in some form or other due to the obscene mega-hype being made over it.

Not sure about Kodocha. Revelation only seem to be releasing current Funi titles really so we may have missed the boat. It's not an especially big title either so I doubt they feel the need to backtrack. Better odds on us getting One Piece in the future instead... (although I'd prefer Grappler Baki Twisted Evil )

The UK's always liked its dubs, so anything sub-only isn't going to sell that well. For example if Manga were to get ahold of Gunbuster then expect a dub like they did with Millennium Actress, but if it were Beez then it'd stay subbed and minority interest only. (sounds cold, but reckon it would happen like that)

I don't think much will change in the next year, but with a bit of luck the momentum will increase a little and releases will be closer to the US. (Naruto and Highlander are good examples) We'll keep mimicking the US though, so I'm not expecting any UK exclusives outside of Optimum's Ghibli stuff...
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

id exepect Kadokawa to annouce a deal with one company and as such FMP!TSR, Haruhi and The Third (why is this always forgotten?) will come out through the same company. Im hoping ADV myself, but tahts mainly cus it means we would get the booklets.

BTW - Gunbuster cant have a dub. Theres no M&E track, only the final mixed down track.
Doesnt excuse BVUSA over the rest of there overpriced underspeced titles though.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: The coming knock-on effect from the current US scene Reply with quote

Damo wrote:
we are not the same as the US market.


I think that speaks for itself Smile we ARE not the same as the US okay fine, it may effect what companies based in the US will bring out over here but I've noticed with some of the UK arms they adapt by geting other titles not necessarily in their US catalogue.

If the companies have to slow down then maybe they'll bring out more quality as opposed to quantity
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see definitely A-list titles like FMP: TSR and Haruhi getting a release over here in one form or another. Who will do it is another question entirely. Kadokawa have spread out their distribution to many companies in the US and could very easily do so if they venture over here.

As far as sub-only titles go I doubt very much that we would see many such over here. Quite aside the fact of a preference for dubs over here (I don't think the US is any different in this but they have a larger population which makes the actual numbers greatly different and more workable) but many of the titles slated for such treatment are of marginal or lesser popularity and older, classic anime with a cult following. The likes of Maria-sama would very likely bomb over here if the past is anything to go by and much of what Media Blasters is licencing is lesser known stuff that many have never heard of or failed to ignite any kind of light in the western world.

I think that in 12 month's time the UK market will be slightly bigger, with boxed sets being released after series have completed becoming more and more the norm. There may be a shift towards more shoujo-centric titles (Revelation seem to be trying to break into that market more than any other distributor and if they succeed it may prove to be push that is required.)
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt we'll see many of the Media Blasters "sub only" DVDs, but the Odex dubbed series are a possibility.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fudce wrote:
but the Odex dubbed series are a possibility.

Fantastic Children.

Already got one in the UK is what im trying to say Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

botmaster2005 wrote:
Damo wrote:
we are not the same as the US market.


I think that speaks for itself Smile we ARE not the same as the US okay fine, it may effect what companies based in the US will bring out over here but I've noticed with some of the UK arms they adapt by geting other titles not necessarily in their US catalogue.

I wasn't meaning companies like manga who have ventured into other US distributors titles, BUT look at it this way Manga's non manga titels have pretty much bombed (Tetsujin 28, Heat Guy J) what I did mean is the distributors like ADV, BEEZ and in teh future Revolution films who stand a good chance of bringing everything over from their US equivelant. going off of track record of past releases any Shoujo title wont sell, so why try until the demand is noticibly there, sure a push might be needed to make them popular but will they become popular because the market demographic changes or because "beggers can't be choosers" meaning fans just want to fuel the anime-habit with the best of what IS available.

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id exepect Kadokawa to annouce a deal with one company and as such FMP!TSR, Haruhi and The Third (why is this always forgotten?)

Becasue The Third isn't insanely popular like the other two are.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damo wrote:

IanC wrote:
id exepect Kadokawa to annouce a deal with one company and as such FMP!TSR, Haruhi and The Third (why is this always forgotten?)

Becasue The Third isn't insanely popular like the other two are.

But it is still a Kadokawa title. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IanC wrote:
Damo wrote:

IanC wrote:
id exepect Kadokawa to annouce a deal with one company and as such FMP!TSR, Haruhi and The Third (why is this always forgotten?)

Becasue The Third isn't insanely popular like the other two are.

But it is still a Kadokawa title. Smile

Doesn't matter, it gets forgotten due to simply being under the shadow of the other two.
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