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Damo Still Alive, but no cake.

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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: more episodes at the beginning or the end? |
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Watching volume 5 of Madlax the other night I just then wanted to watch the remaining two volumes as the momentum of the series is picking up so much but there are two volumes left with only 6 episodes to go. That's another 4 months.
So was wondering where do preffer the bigger episode discs to fall. Do you like a lot at the start, like a five episode disc to get you hooked in, or would you preffer a five episoe disc at the end of the series run so that it carries the momentum of the series as usually things get exciting near the end. _________________ ...
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Random Hardcore Poster

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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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This dovetails in with the 2 months between disks and episodes on disks debates.
If the release schedule was shorter then it wouldn't seem so bad.
Ideally more episodes per disk and a shorter release timetable.
2 months between 3 episodes is stupid and is why I'm waiting to buy Madlax until all are out. |
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Damo Still Alive, but no cake.

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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:52 am Post subject: |
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I think that's what I'll be doing, I can't see myself wanting to sit down and watch volume 6 unless I've got volume 7 there as well. The two month thing I can handle to an extent, unless cliffhangers are involved, but as said you can get really into a series and then it filters out with a drop in episode count when it's supposed to be gaining momentum. _________________ ...
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Random Hardcore Poster

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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Pulling in yet another debate that's relevant to this.
The UK arms of the anime companies are really shooting themselves in the foot by having such long delays both between disks and between the release dates in the US.
It often happens that there's a thinpack version of a series, or at least a price reduction, available in the US before the full series is released over here.
The long delays just encourage people to go R1 import rather than wait.
ADV are particularly bad for this and I wonder what they would see if they analysed how many R1 sales are made to UK customers as this effectively takes bread out of the mouths of the UK division. |
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Gawyn Elite Poster

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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Random wrote: | Pulling in yet another debate that's relevant to this.
The UK arms of the anime companies are really shooting themselves in the foot by having such long delays both between disks and between the release dates in the US.
It often happens that there's a thinpack version of a series, or at least a price reduction, available in the US before the full series is released over here.
The long delays just encourage people to go R1 import rather than wait.
ADV are particularly bad for this and I wonder what they would see if they analysed how many R1 sales are made to UK customers as this effectively takes bread out of the mouths of the UK division. |
To be fair to the UK companies they largely don't have a say in how soon after the US release the UK gets their version. Manga has been addressing this where they can by doing simultaneous releases of some of their titles; ADV seem to be trying to address it, with simultaneous UK/US announcements of licences for Keroro Gunsou and Chevalier D'eon; BEEZ, for all that they are attached to Namco/Bandai, are an independant division within Namco/Bandai and have no real say in when they will get titles and even if; MVM, of course, are completely independant and are reliant upon US releases to ensure an English dub track.
There are also probably provisions within the contracts for most licences that they cannot approach too closely or overtake the US release dates.
Onto the original topic I certainly don't like the idea of reducing the episode count towards the end of a series. It would be nice to have (for instance) a 26 episode series on 6 discs with a couple of 5 episode discs to finish it off.
Edit-- It wouldn't be quite so bad if the price reflected the episode count to some degree, much like the Japanese do with their releases. True, the Japanese releases are somewhat more expensive with a greater leeway on changing the price but the principle is nice, either way. |
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Random Hardcore Poster

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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well yes but whatever the reasons behind it the long gaps between disks and release dates must cause real problems for the UK divisions. Made all the worse when you're supposed to be a division of the same company that's leeching all your sales.
Using Madlax as an example, this was released in the US in 2004/2005 and is now on sale there on the ADV site at $10 per disk. That's approx. £35 plus shipping for all 7 disks. It won't even finish being released here until 2007. Something wrong there.
If the UK anime market is seen to be small then anything that encourages importing from abroad can't help. Until the scale of imports is quantified then it's impossible to say what the size of the market here is.
If as you say they are trying to bring the release dates closer then hopefully the market here will be seen as bigger which may lead to more releases which leads to more sales and so on. |
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Toraman Shinigami

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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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With a 26 episode series, why can't we have both? There's enough space for 5 on the first disv to hook you in, and then 5 at the end give it a good run at the end.
3 episode DVDs are evil. I bought Gantz 6 and 7 on the same day as I knew otherwise I'd have a nasty wait for barely an hour's worth of show... |
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Fudce Forum Ninja

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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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For a 7 disc series, I think Noir got the episode spread spot on. Sure there were three "3 episiode" discs, but it worked somehow.
5-4-3-4-4-3-3 (I think)
For a six disc series..
6-4-4-4-4-4
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5-4-4-5-4-4 works best _________________ UK Anime DVD of the Month Awards
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Damo Still Alive, but no cake.

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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Fudce wrote: | For a 7 disc series, I think Noir got the episode spread spot on. Sure there were three "3 episiode" discs, but it worked somehow.
5-4-3-4-4-3-3 (I think)
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Gilgamesh is following a simalar run 5/4/4/4/3/3/3 which with two months between volumes means Gilgamesh's slow start is offset with slow release at the end given the proportion of time/episodes. Personally I'd much rather have the other way maybe 5/4/3/3/3/4/4, all the UK companies do there own authoring so why more inroads aren't made about making the UK domestic market more apealing we'll never know.
| Gawyn wrote: | There are also probably provisions within the contracts for most licences that they cannot approach too closely or overtake the US release dates.
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Believe it or not, where Naruto is concerned I was told at the Expo that the contract stipulates that the UK release can't get too close or ahead of the US release and it was the japanese who stipulated this. So despite manga being able to do 13 episode releases (which is really nice) they're over a barrel by the japanese on when it gets released, again just encouraging impatient fans to import. _________________ ...
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