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1) Were you buying the singles of either?

1b) If not why not?

2) Would you have bought the singles eventually?

3) Will you buy the box set to finish either off?

4) Would you have bought either as a box set off the get go (no singles at all)?

5a) Would you have bought either subbed only?

5b) Would you have bought either dubbed only?

6) Does this practice of switching to box set half way discourage you from buying more singles in the future?

6a) why?

7) If push came to shove what way would you buy the titles over not having them at all? (example - subbed only season set w/ no extras)

8,) If eitehr never made it over here would you import either?

9) did you see either through other means (eg fansub)?

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Toraman · Shinigami Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 2101 Location: London

1) Were you buying the singles of either? - Nope.

1b) If not why not? - Single releases are being outdone by cheaper deals elsewhere imo.

2) Would you have bought the singles eventually? - Most likely once the whole series was out and on a special offer or something like at the Expo.

3) Will you buy the box set to finish either off? - N/A to me as I've not been getting the singles.

4) Would you have bought either as a box set off the get go (no singles at all)? - Yeah, and I intend to preorder them soon (they've both appeared on play.com already).

5a) Would you have bought either subbed only? - Yeah, but the price should generall be lower die to lower production costs imo.

5b) Would you have bought either dubbed only? - Yeah again, I'm not too fussy either way so long as a show's good.

6) Does this practice of switching to box set half way discourage you from buying more singles in the future? - Yep, totally.

6a) why? - Because its an exercise in wasting money by being forced to buy the same product twice. Companies will make a quick buck sure, but it will also create issues of trust (or lack thereof) in fans later down the line when they start releasing newer titles in single volumes.

7) If push came to shove what way would you buy the titles over not having them at all? (example - subbed only season set w/ no extras) - Not fussed so long as I can watch all of it in one piece.

8,) If eitehr never made it over here would you import either? - Not especially for these particular titles, but if there's a title I want to see that doesn't look like it'll ever get a UK release I'll import.

9) did you see either through other means (eg fansub)? - Nope, only the trailers from other ADV DVDs.

Fudce

1) Were you buying the singles of either?
-No

1b) If not why not?
-I watched Kurau on TV, and whilst I enjoyed what I saw of it, it isn't a series that I'd be tempted to buy and watch again.

2) Would you have bought the singles eventually?
-Probably not

3) Will you buy the box set to finish either off?
-n/a

4) Would you have bought either as a box set off the get go (no singles at all)?
-Probably not.

5a) Would you have bought either subbed only?
-Definitly not.

5b) Would you have bought either dubbed only?
-No

6) Does this practice of switching to box set half way discourage you from buying more singles in the future?
-Not really

6a) why?
-If it happens, the box usually saves money rather than costing more money.

7) If push came to shove what way would you buy the titles over not having them at all? (example - subbed only season set w/ no extras)
-As long as it isn't a sub only set, I'm happy.

8,) If eitehr never made it over here would you import either?
-No

9) did you see either through other means (eg fansub)?
-No

I should note, that even though I wasn't buying the singles for Red Garden, I do own the R1 version of volume 1, I received it as a "Guessing game" prize.
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Damo · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject:

Damo

1) Were you buying the singles of either?
No

1b) If not why not?
I was recieving review copies.

2) Would you have bought the singles eventually?
Of Red Garden - yes, Kurau - no Red GArden is more my taste in anime than kurau.

3) Will you buy the box set to finish either off?
I'll buy both

4) Would you have bought either as a box set off the get go (no singles at all)?
Red Garden - yes - Kurau - maybe depending on price.

5a) Would you have bought either subbed only?
Probaly both, subbed only lowers the general cost so yes.

5b) Would you have bought either dubbed only?
No, Ironically despite watching 90% of my anime in English if I had to choose a single option I'd go subbed.

6) Does this practice of switching to box set half way discourage you from buying more singles in the future?No

6a) why?
I ahve faith, I'm too easy going, I sometimes will wait until a sereis is fully out before buying.

7) If push came to shove what way would you buy the titles over not having them at all? (example - subbed only season set w/ no extras)
Subbed only seasons sets / half-season sets is fine by me for all series, if it means I'll get to see it saty on a comfy sofa rather than a desk.

8,) If eitehr never made it over here would you import either?
Red garden - yes, Kurau - no

9) did you see either through other means (eg fansub)?
No neither. word of mouth trailers and other sites reviews.
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Ai-Chan · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject:

I suppose the 2 extra questions would be

10) Are these series 2 series you're interested in anyway

11) Will you buy either of these sets if you weren't buying the singles.

Just Passing Through

1) Were you buying the singles of either?

No

1b) If not why not?

Weren't interested in either

2) Would you have bought the singles eventually?

N/A

3) Will you buy the box set to finish either off?

N/A

....

Ok, so the questionaire doesn't apply to me since I never considered the series, but having gone through this nonsense with Manga not once but three times, I feel that I can comment.

Decisions like this always feel like a betrayal, and it actually feels worse than losing a series before it's run ends, like Tetsujin or Yu Yu Hakusho. It shouldn't feel that way but it does, after all you are still getting the series.

Consistency and commitment mean a lot, and if a distributor commits to distributing a show in a certain way, they ought to honour that committment.

But in this era of war on waste, and environmental consideration, the duplication of purchases is utterly wasteful. I also have the cynical view that it is an easy way to bump up the sales figures, where talk is of units and bottom lines. In effect, the company ends up selling the first volumes x2, which looks good on the balance sheets, even if they tak a hit in the profits.

Besides, they only wind up hurting themselves, if like me you have a once bitten twice shy attitude. With Heat Guy J, regardless of how cheap the boxset was compared to the singles, I wasn't going to pay anything close to the RRP for it. I waited until it was down to £8. Tokko I actually won in a competition, but Manga cut corners on that by ditching the DTS discs and just releasing three Disc 1s, and when it came to Noein, which got the same treatment, I wound up importing from the US instead.

Although they didn't give Otogi Zoshi the boxset two step, they did wind up releasing the final three discs as barebones discs, minus the extras and with dubtitles as opposed to the translated subs on the first three. I'm liable to import those as well.

I'm far more likely to wait for the boxset now than I was before. Once I've been let down by a company, I never trust them the same way.

It's not just the little companies that do this. Warner annoyed me by changing their Harry Potter packaging three releases in from digipack to Amaray, killing what consistency there was.
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Random · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject:

1) Were you buying the singles of either? No

1b) If not why not? I only buy series when all the disks are out

2) Would you have bought the singles eventually? No unless on sale

3) Will you buy the box set to finish either off? N/A

4) Would you have bought either as a box set off the get go (no singles at all)? Red Garden probably

5a) Would you have bought either subbed only? Yes

5b) Would you have bought either dubbed only? No

6) Does this practice of switching to box set half way discourage you from buying more singles in the future? No

6a) why? see my answer to 1

7) If push came to shove what way would you buy the titles over not having them at all? (example - subbed only season set w/ no extras)

I only buy UK official releases so would skip them

8,) If eitehr never made it over here would you import either? No

9) did you see either through other means (eg fansub)? No
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Toraman · Shinigami Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 2101 Location: London

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1) Were you buying the singles of either?
Just Kurau

2) Would you have bought the singles eventually?
Yep

3) Will you buy the box set to finish either off?
I'm in two minds about this - partly irritation due to having to double-dip, but also partly because I've not had good experiences with the cases ADV uses for their collections (the spindles break waaay too easily)

4) Would you have bought either as a box set off the get go (no singles at all)?
Kurau probably yes, I was never too interested in Red Garden

5a) Would you have bought either subbed only?
Generally I avoid monolingual releases, but I really enjoyed Kurau so I would have probably made an exception for that...

5b) Would you have bought either dubbed only?
See above

6) Does this practice of switching to box set half way discourage you from buying more singles in the future?
Definitely

6a) why?
The usual - waste of money + the uncertainty about buying singles in the future

7) If push came to shove what way would you buy the titles over not having them at all? (example - subbed only season set w/ no extras)
My eyesight is awful & so always watching stuff subbed can be a pain - I could do without extras if need be though (to be honest a lot of shows seem to only have trailers as the extras anyway)

8,) If eitehr never made it over here would you import either?
Probably Kurau, not Red Garden

9) did you see either through other means (eg fansub)?
Saw the first episode of Kurau way back when ADV screened it on ANN, & borrowed the first disc of Red Garden from a friend

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Toraman · Shinigami Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 2101 Location: London

gradian · Resident Poster Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 296

Oh I’m am assuming that Red Garden and Kurau Phantom Memory are examples and that your not just asking about those particular titles.

1) Were you buying the singles of either? No

1b) If not why not? I tend to wait to the end of a series and then get them in either single or boxset form depends on price

2) Would you have bought the singles eventually? See 1b

3) Will you buy the box set to finish either off? Yes and then sell the singles

4) Would you have bought either as a box set off the get go (no singles at all)? yes

5a) Would you have bought either subbed only? Yes if I was interested in them

5b) Would you have bought either dubbed only? Yes if I was interested in them

6) Does this practice of switching to box set half way discourage you from buying more singles in the future? NO

6a) why? All depends on how much I’m willing to pay to see that particulars series

7) If push came to shove what way would you buy the titles over not having them at all? (example - subbed only season set w/ no extras) I would like it bobbed don’t care for extras, boxsets always welcome, takes up less room on the self. And now the little twist I’ll will watch subtitled, at the end of the day if I can watch my anime and understand it that all that mater to me. Come on I’ll watch the show with it Japanese original sound track with out subtitles. I can still enjoy it. And no I can’t speak Japanese before you ask.

8,) If either never made it over here would you import either? Oh yes

9) Did you see either through other means (eg fansub)? Yes

10) Are these series 2 series you're interested in anyway yes

11) Will you buy either of these sets if you weren't buying the singles. Yes

Ok the question are out of the way time to rant.

There are so many things wrong/right about our anime industry and fandom, that it stupid us as fans have way to much say in how we get our anime that it ridicules and the industry can’t make a move that doesn’t piss of enough of us that we can change there minds or at least give them a really nasty headache. I have never meat a winner bunch of people in my life and that hard I’m for Scotland and according to some we do noting but bitch. The only time we can’t get our way is when the industry hits the bottom line and they seem to have finally hit it. As fans that want anime release in this country we need to support it and as an industry they need to get a better back bone and do what’s needed Oh my god is the anime industry like shinji for EVA.

Toraman · Shinigami Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 2101 Location: London